Conversion Of Label Vision Labels To Bartender S’abonner

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We are in the process of converting over from Label Vision to Bartender for several reasons, not the least of which is that Bartender is a better program and supports the Aztec barcode. Is there a quick conversion out there for converting the .LAB to .BTW? I retire in 2017, and would like to have this project completed before then!  ;-)

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Pete

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In a word no, sorry but this is not possible.  Most of the leading labelling software developers have tried to find a way of doing this over the years but quite simply, the different ways in which we produce our software and the features within means that it simply cannot be achieved 100%.  So, most have given up on the idea.
 
However, at Seagull Scientific we have always tried to make BarTender as easy to use as possible so that users can quickly redesign labels.  One feature we introduced with version 7.00 was the Toolbox which was specifically aimed at making label design even quicker.  If you cannot see this feature in your copy of BarTender go to View, Toolbars and click on Toolbox.
 
Another feature that may appeal to you is the ability to set the background of the label to a colour or picture such as a label designed in another software package.  By doing this, you can quickly copy the original label by overlaying barcodes, text boxes etc and then on completion, changing the background back to be blank thus leaving the newly designed label details only.
 
To use this feature click through the New Label Format Wizard (which appears when you first open up BarTender) until you come to the Label Background screen.  You then click on Picture and select the file from the folder where you have your label design stored which was created in the other label package.
 
Below follows greater detail as to why the answer is no to this question...
 
We call this the "file conversion question;" converting brand A's label files to brand B's. There are basically two answers to this question: the short answer and the long answer.
 
The short answer is "no, but sorry, we really do not have any tool for this."  Sorry.
 
The long answer explains why the answer is "no," and I personally believe it is important that people understand why, because some label softwares (BarTender included) have tried to do this in the past, and some may still advertise it - but beware!!.
 
a)    All label software's have features that the other programs do not. For example, a user could create a label file in BarTender with a connection to SAP IDocs which only we support. Then how would a different label software "import" this functionality? Not possible, so what would result?
 
b)    We all do the same things differently. For example, we all support ODBC connections with Queries, but, internally, we all have slightly different code sequences to handle the Query. This can cause the Query to malfunction.
 
c)    You may have MANY label files, which would actually be better served by having just a few label files but using a database with different records. Consolidating and controlling a company's data in a database is almost always the better solution in the long-term. The change to a new label software can be taken as an opportunity to reorganize a your label printing in a proper manner with a proper database. Not always, but very often.
 
d)    Even when such a utility does exist, they can only convert about 60% of a label file about 60% of the time. This may sound like better than nothing, but it actually is a negative. Why? Because after running a label file through a conversion process, then getting the resultant, converted file in the second label software, some user still needs to open the label file and examine it/tweak it VERY CAREFULLY. Serial numbers could be misconverted, "best before" dates could be misconverted, check digits could be misconverted, etc. The user ends up spending more time hunting and pecking within converted label files, than they would have if they had just created the label from zero initially.
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Thank you for the reply. I like the idea about using a picture of the old label as a background, then turning it off. That way I can be sure that the new label is pretty close to the old label, but will have the Aztec barcode on it.

 

Thanks again for the suggestion!

 

Pete

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Hello.   Is there a way to EXPORT btw files so Label Matrix can "convert" them.  Organization moved from Bartender to Label Matrix.  Our site is the only one not using Label Matrix.  

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dsimmond,

 

You will need to check this with Label Matrix support to see if they've such a tool for importing label formats from a different label design software.

 

From our side, what you could do, is to export the BT document as a graphic and then import as a graphic background to your other label design software. This way, you will have a kind of a template for designing your Label Matrix labels. Once the label design has completed you can get rid of the graphic background.

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Hello we just started using Bartender we were previously using Label Matrix.  is their any way to move our files from Label Matrix to Bartender?  or to convert the qdf files to btw

 

Please help!

 

thanks

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