Why would you remove "font per data source" feature when upgrading to 2019? S’abonner

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Mike Volpe

For over a year I've been complaining to Bartender about how they have such an innovative software but can't do such simple things like baseline shifts and superscript (unless you go into word processor of course). Now, they added that in, and they removed the option to change the font per data source... Am I just missing it or is it missing completely?? The white papers say you can now make the changes through the Font Toolbar, but it glitches out horribly and it doesn't do stuff like colors... Seriously? HELP!

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Jasper Wen
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The "font per data source" option still exists in BarTender 2019, but has been improved and made easier through our new on screen editing in BarTender Designer. This support article here walks you through on how to do this in BarTender 2019.

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Rod Bolt
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Hopefully someone has shown you how to do this, but if you have 2 data sources you can click on them on the main screen and change it like you would in say word. the different data sources can be individually clicked on and then font changed. It would be good if this was clearer. I had to hunt for this.

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Erwin Chu
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In Bartender 2019, how do you have different fonts for different data sources in one text object? This used to be done with a "Different Fonts per Data Source" button in the font. I would like to maintain different data sources in one text object because the data can vary in length.

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Al Perez
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Hi Erwin,

Thanks for your post, it's very much appreciated! There are several ways you can modify text within a single text object. First, please note that Fonts per Data Source has changed the way it has worked in the past.

If you review Jasper's post above, you'll find a link to the article that actually shows you how to modify your fonts - essentially, the way things work now is that you can type anything you'd like into the single data source and once you start modifying your text, BarTender will automatically "break them apart" into separate data sources. It's supposed to facilitate font modification without having to enter the Properties pane of the text object.

Let us know if this helps!

 

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Erwin Chu
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Hi Al,

I have seen that post but I still actually do not understand how I would do this in the example I have in my previous post. You can see I have multiple Data Sources within one object in order to maintain the same spacing whether one of the fields requires 2 lines or 3 lines.

Can you explain with my example, how I would go about creating different fonts for each data source within an object?

In Example 1 below, this is how the template looks as it was migrated from 10.1 using Fonts per data source. I have the data sources all within one text object so that the spacing is the same no matter if one of the data requires 1 or 2 lines. And each field has different fonts.

In Example 2, I tried to recreate the same as in Example 1 using the example from the link from Jasper. While I can get different fonts, I cannot get the fields to format the same where if one fields uses multiple lines, the other fields move down as well. You can see once the Product Name uses it lines, there will be overlap issues.

 

Properties for Example 1:

 

Can you explain how to recreate the same as how I have it in Example 1 using Bartender 2019?

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Pete Thane
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This is how I would set it up, which is similar to Jaspers document but starting as a word wrapped field and without named data sources 

1. I would add a Word Wrapped text item and add in 3 distinguishable elements. As per the top field on the image below. I haven't stretched the field at this point so you can it is wrapped. 

2. In turn I would select/highlight the 3 elements and amend the font being used to the required settings. The middle field shows this and I have gone into the Properties of the field and also added in the Carriage Returns as separate strings although you can also set these as suffixes to the top two strings from the Transforms menu or as a prefix or a suffix for the middle string.

3. Finally I amended the three strings to link them to my Database and the second image below shows my substrings   

I hope this helps

 

 

 

 

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Al Perez
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Hi Erwin, thanks for your post.

The problem in your case isn't so much the usage of fonts, it's the fact that you're using a Normal text object, instead of a Normal Wrapped text object.

In older versions of BarTender and like in your 1st example, a multi-line text object is part of the list of text objects you can select; in BarTender 2019 and above, this is called Normal Wrapped text object:

 

I can see in your Example 2 that you're using multiple single-line text objects (in BarTender 2019, this is a Normal text object).

Once you switch over to a Normal Wrapped text object, click inside the text object to begin adding your lines of text. While still working inside the text object, begin selecting some of the text that you want to edit/change fonts, and use the font selector in the top left to perform that task.

Unfortunately, the 'in-line editing' feature doesn't seem to be perfect, sometimes you'll get a single letter or some text that do not appear to be correctly formatted; in which case, you'll want to jump into the text properties and make your fixes.

I hope that helps!

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Erwin Chu
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Thanks for the suggestions.

Finally figured it out:

  1. Right click on the object and click Edit
  2. Select the Text element
  3. Change the font in the menu

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in the Properties, right click on each Data Source and select Font

 

Definitely not the most intuitive but glad to finally understand how to control it.

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